Mr. MH quit his job to be a stay at home Dad!

Read on to see why we made the decision to go down to one part time income with Mr. MH quitting his job to be a stay at home Dad and how it impacts our path to Financial Independence.

You may (or may not) have noticed a lack of blog posts. I certainly have felt guilty for not writing! A lot has been going on in the last number of months and the blog had to take a back burner. I’m hoping that with our new lifestyle choice, that will change.

I really struggled with the title of this post. I wanted to put something really catchy for google search terms like “We partially retired!” but funnily enough Mr. MH came across a critique of FIRE bloggers often saying they retired early but that this is disingenuous as their online platforms are earning them more now than they ever made working a day job and that they still put in a lot of hours into their business. The critique said they should be more honest and say something like:

“I’m a former retiree. I came out of retirement to share my advice on saving, investing, and frugal living. I make good money doing it.”

or

“We quit our jobs to do what we love! We now travel the world and share the investment strategies that have worked well for us. We now work at what we enjoy doing and make money from sharing our advice with others”.

And in our case, it’s no different. Plenty of families choose to live off one income and have one parent stay at home (though maybe less so nowadays). The only difference I’d argue in our case is the choice was afforded to us by the financial freedom we have worked towards.

Snapshot of the last 4 months

Each of these points could warrant a full blog post and may do in the future but this gives you an idea of what’s been going on on our side:

  • End of March:
    • I went back to work (remotely) from maternity leave on a 2.5 day/week contract. Mr. MH was still off on unpaid parental leave.
  • Beginning of April:
    • I went up to 5 days a week due to project demands and trying to get as much done before Mr. MH went back to work, I also continued to take on blog consultations.
    • We un-officially listed our condo in Canada for sale, got an offer in 1 day but had to decline as the tenant could not remove his belongings due to COVID travel restrictions.
  • Beginning of June:
    • Mr. MH went back to work on a 3 day week, I went back down to 2 days a week. We juggled swapping between working from home and childcare.
  • End of June:
    • We attempted to find childcare in time for end of July when Mr. MH was due to go back full-time. Could not find any availability in creches and childminders were going to cost 2,000€/month for a 3 day week.
  • Beginning of July:
    • We officially listed our condo and sold within 2 weeks. The relief of selling was overshadowed by trying to figure out tax liabilities for disposing a property from abroad.
  • Mid-July:
    • Decision made for Mr.MH to hand in his months’ notice
    • Mr. MH went back to a 5 day week, while I worked a 2 day week by doing an early morning shift before resuming caring for our son.
  • August:
    • Mr. MH finished up work, I’m now on a 4-day week
    • I worked on a number of blog consultations, was on a podcast and prepped for some upcoming presentations in Sep
    • Our condo sale officially closed and taxes are filed
    • We took a one week holiday and are now thoroughly enjoying our new work-life balance!

Considerations

Going down to one part-time income and essentially delaying our time to financial independence was a weighty decision but definitely feels like the right decision for our family, at least for now. Many angles were considered when making the decision which I will go into below.

Money

The first consideration was, could we make this work money-wise and still have money left over to build towards financial independence? Short answer: yes.

Lower housing costs

Long answer: With the sale of our Canadian property freeing up some equity the decision remained around how best to use that money.

  1. Do we leave it in Canada and invest it there where there are more tax-efficient vehicles?
  2. Do we transfer it to Ireland, incurring additional capital gains tax (CGT) on remittance and invest it here? Or
  3. Do we transfer it to Ireland and use the funds to pay down our mortgage here?

After further analysis, I discovered that paying down our mortgage would take the same amount of time to get to financial independence as investing it in a more tax-efficient Canada (full post on this pending). Even though our net worth might be higher in the long term by investing it instead, this is not the main goal for us. What is important is the financial freedom to buy TIME and paying down our mortgage will get us to the same end goal in the same time while also reducing our expenses now and reducing the risk of the market not performing (which is questionable in the next number of years).

Lower childcare costs

As mentioned above, if we could get a place in a creche it would costs us about 800€/month for 5 full days a week but in the current climate, we could not secure a place. This left childminders, who in our area are charging 10-12€/hour, so for a full day, 3 days a week this would cost us 2,000€/month. While this was less than our lowest income, the reasons for us both working full time were dwindling.

Social

Leaving the workforce would be a major social change for Mr. MH. So much of our social network is the connections we have at work. Becoming a stay at home dad could present its own challenges in terms of keeping engaged with other adults. We will play this by ear. We have a few friends on maternity leave and so Mr. MH can meet up with them during the week and with me being off on Friday’s we can take turns going on social outings with friends if we feel we need more social outlets.

Although men are starting to become primary care givers more often, it’s still not commonplace. We considered the social impacts of this and reached out to a friend who also took this decision. They said they are definitely enjoying the added time for things that are important to them like preparing better food and being able to eat all together but mentioned that their husband needed to make a conscious effort not to be bothered by frequent questions about him being off work while at the playground or library during business hours – at least Mr. MH can be aware to expect these comments and be prepared to not let them bother him. Another great tip was to join a gym with a creche so they could get some alone time while their kid gets to play with other kids.

As for our son’s social side, he gets time with other kids at the playground and with our friend’s kids when we visit them. We would like for more social outings for him but trying to balance reducing COVID risks with the need for him to socialise. We may book him into some day care sessions at some point or hold off until he is in the early childhood care and education (ECCE) scheme where he’ll get 3 hours of free schooling per day once he is 3.

Loss of earning potential

One of our concerns in either one of us temporarily leaving the workforce until our son is in school was our loss of earning potential. We both felt like we had reached a decent level of earnings and that taking a leave from the workforce could take us 5 years to get back to the same level of pay we are on now.

Some of this is unfounded as we had a similar feeling when we left our jobs in Canada to start over in Ireland. We felt like we were earning more than we ever had and couldn’t see how we would maintain that level of earning in a new country where we had no local experience. Fast forward 6 years and we are earning almost 60% more take home than we were then (before going to one income).

Anyway, we think we’ve found a way not to worry about this. Our latest path to FI analysis includes Mr. MH never needing to return to work. Should he wish to return to work when our son is in school to fill his time, it will be of his choosing and the pay will not matter. We can maintain this lifestyle of me working a 4 day week until we reach full FI and then we will both have enough invested to cover our expenses.

Health

Being off with our son enables Mr. MH to stay a lot more active than if he were working. He usually aims to get outside twice every day for a walk in nature wherever possible. And with me being off on Friday’s we will have more time to start taking turns going out on more strenuous exercise outings.

I recently watched an episode of Zac Efron’s Down to Earth on the research into Blue Zones where there are large populations of people over 100, and the key findings to a long life are: low stress, active lifestyles in addition to genetics, environmental factors and diet.

I feel like the decision to go down to one part time income will certainly help tick a few of those boxes.

The other health considerations are COVID related. Mr. MH is an at risk category and so putting our son in creche would increase the chances of us contracting it. We have friends who have already had to get tested after having their kids in creche for 1.5 weeks. The cycle and stress of having our son being continually sick and constantly worrying whether it is COVID, going for testing, taking time off work when our son had to be kept home from creche was all another major tick box against the idea of both of us continuing to work.

Family

One of my main reasons for striving for financial independence is to have more time with friends and family. As tomorrow is not guaranteed, I feel it is important to prioritise this now as much as possible and this decision helps to do that now rather than later.

Whenever I have a chance to call my parents, or my siblings, even if I feel like I should be doing something more productive, I do my best to always chose the call over something else. I think to myself, some day, you might not be able to call them anymore and you will not regret taking every chance you get to call them while you still can.

Having a long weekend every weekend also enables us to go and visit people more often. We have been back in Ireland for 6 years and we saw more of our friends in Ireland when we lived in Canada and would make a tour of the country once a year to get to see everyone. Now that we are here, we take it for granted that we can go anytime and everyone gets so busy that we don’t actually make the time. Now that we have more time, we plan to schedule visits with friends and family around the country far more often. We’ve already been up to Sligo and got to catch up with friends we hadn’t seen in ages.

Lifestyle

I feel like we are already living a partially retired lifestyle. We don’t have to worry about taking work off when our son is sick, organise childcare or camps during school terms, work our schedules around drop off and pick up times at creche. We are building in the hobbies and exercise routines we’d always put on the long finger and hoped to do “when we had more time”.

With the extra time I plan on growing the blog, learning to grow my own food, getting out in nature more, visiting friends and family, joining an exercise class and trying new vegetarian recipes.

For example, last Friday was my first “guilt free blog work day” and it looked like this: Woke up had a slow breakfast, tidied the kitchen while Mr. MH had a lie in, worked on a presentation I am doing in early Sep, came down for lunch, played an hour of playstation, threw on some laundry, worked on a blog consultation, went on a long walk with Mr. MH and our son in nature, worked on another consultation while Mr. MH made dinner and had the evening to ourselves once our son had gone to bed.

When I asked Mr. MH how he was finding the new routine he said he was finally getting back his “Joie de Vivre” which he hasn’t felt since we were back in Canada. This was a shock for me to hear and while I’m sad it has taken this long, I am even more grateful that we can be in this position and has solidified my feeling that this is the right decision.

When we dug into this a bit more, we feel it’s a combination of getting more exercise, being out of a stressful job and knowing we will be ok for money for almost a year even if I lose my job.

Risk

My job is not permanent and my contract only gets extended for 6 months at a time. This is a risk we are taking but we are mitigating this by maintaining a cash cushion to cover at least 6 months living expenses should my contract end and either one of us need to get another job.

The stress of this risk is also alleviated as once we pay down our mortgage with proceeds from the condo, our annual expenses will almost be low enough to live off one minimum wage job so even if we can’t find a professional job quickly enough, we could take a minimum wage job while the other continues to stay home with our son and we’d still have enough to get by, though we would need to temporarily pause our goals for saving towards FI.

Impact on Path to Financial Independence

So how has this decision impacted our path to financial independence? Basically it has delayed our time to full financial independence but I would argue that we are already living the lifestyle we want to live once we get there so reaching FI is no longer the most important goal. We are already building in the lifestyle we want once we no longer need to work for money and test driving options so that we are not shocked once we get there and regret having given up work.

  • If we both worked full time and put our son in childcare, we would have been fully FI in 4.25 years.
  • If Mr. MH worked full time and I worked 3 days a week, we would have been fully FI in 8 years.
  • With our current plan of me working 4 days a week, Mr. MH never returning to work, paying off our mortgage in the next few years and then investing in ETFs, we should be in a position to be fully FI in 12 years.

This of course is assuming I maintain my job and current level of pay but as per the other risk mitigations mentioned above we are happy enough to live the life we want now even though it extends our time to full FI. Should our circumstances change, we are also happy that our expenses will be low enough to still maintain a low stress lifestyle with one person able to stay home with our son and one person working for minimum wage even though it may pause our path to full FI until we can get a professional level job again!

17 thoughts on “Mr. MH quit his job to be a stay at home Dad!”

    • Thank you 🙂 So far so good, some may think we’re crazy to give up a permanent job in this climate but hopefully, with our fail safe’s in place it will work out for the best.

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  1. Wow, great decision! Sounds like a lovely lifestyle!
    I find it difficult to weigh up these decisions as its difficult to calculate how many years to FI in an Irish context! Is there a spreadsheet/tool you use to predict this?

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    • Thanks Mary, we really are enjoying it so far. In terms of working it out, I have made my own custom worksheet. Due to reader demand, I am now offering a service where I gather an individual’s details and provide exactly this type of analysis. At the end you get a summary report along with the detailed worksheet which you can use to update various assumptions as your circumstances change going forward. Check out the work with me section if this is something you’d be interested in 🙂

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  2. Meagan I really enjoyed this blog post.. I’m following your journey and telling me wife these things you guys are doing. Designing your life now not just waiting until your FI really makes sense and your doing it while weighing all the options etc.. And not always going for the financial gain option first… Enjoy!

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  3. Thank you!
    This is very inspiring. I am questioning our (my husband and I) path to FI. Working less and enjoying more time together is definitely key. No decision has been made yet. Working on that 🙂

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    • Aw thank you. I’m so glad to hear our story is inspiring others. Life is short and for me I don’t think I will ever stop working, so long as I am able, so having a decent work-life balance throughout life seems like a no brainer if come the end of the road we have more than enough leftover and a bit to hand down to our kid(s). Happy days

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  4. I’ve really enjoyed reading a few of your different posts that I think speak a lot more about the practical decisions around Financial Independence that you don’t get in a lot or most bloggers.
    We are in a similar position to you (I’m Irish) and I’m currently off/out of work and thinking about what this means for us as a family.
    I don’t know how you can evenly manage being a parent, partner & hold down a meaningful job that sucks 9-5 out of you. I just don’t know how – and keep the house clean, cook a nutritious dinner and get enough exercise to stay in shape.

    So,, I’m the SAHD at the moment and I love it. It’s actually something I’ve been sandbagging for since I started work and what better time to stop working when your kids are this age (ours are turning 2/4 in October).

    Thanks, GFF

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    • Thank you, glad you are finding the blog insightful. Yes it’s a crazy world we live in where we are expected to juggle all things and do them all equally well. I’m lazy by nature and so always the most creative when it comes to finding more efficient (lazy) ways of doing things lol. Way to go on being a SAHD, glad you are enjoying it, we certainly love the flexibility, balance and slower pace of life it has afforded us.

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  5. Congrats on the sale of the property and the big life decisions.
    I laugh at the people who get annoyed when someone says they have reached FIRE but they continue to work at things they love. For me, FIRE is having the financial freedom to retire from a job which is just a job. To me, it means that if I want to do something I love and make money, that’s cool. But I do not need that income for my FIRE, it’s just extra. And I could also just work at something that doesn’t make me money and is just a passion project. Basically income freedom, and the choice to do anything I want.

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