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		<title>When employer retirement fund matching doesn&#8217;t make sense</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meagan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 19:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<img width="300" height="177" src="https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-300x177.jpeg" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="" style="display: block; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 5px;max-width: 100%;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" fetchpriority="high" srcset="https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-300x177.jpeg 300w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-768x452.jpeg 768w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-1024x603.jpeg 1024w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-800x471.jpeg 800w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-e1554480815783.jpeg 600w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />If you're lucky enough to have an employer that provides pension or RRSP matching as a benefit, it seems like a no brainer to maximise whatever portion you need to, to get the full match. After all it's free money or a 100% return on what you put in! Except, there are some scenarios where this doesn't work out in your best interest. Read this post to see when.]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<img width="300" height="177" src="https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-300x177.jpeg" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="" style="display: block; margin: auto; margin-bottom: 5px;max-width: 100%;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" srcset="https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-300x177.jpeg 300w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-768x452.jpeg 768w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-1024x603.jpeg 1024w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-800x471.jpeg 800w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/calculator-calculation-insurance-finance-53621-e1554480815783.jpeg 600w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><p>If you&#8217;re lucky enough to have an employer that provides pension or RRSP matching as a benefit, it seems like a no brainer to maximise whatever portion you need to, to get the full match, after all it&#8217;s free money or a 100% return on what you put in!</p>
<p>EXCEPT&#8230;.</p>
<p>There are some scenarios where this doesn&#8217;t work out in your best interest. This concept applies in both Canada and Ireland so I will refrain from mentioning specific currencies throughout the post.</p>
<p>Like we saw in the mortgage vs investment posts, it all depends on what management fees the group fund is paying and what growth rate it&#8217;s getting compared to what you could get in a self-directed account.</p>
<p>To demonstrate my point I looked at 5 different scenarios.</p>
<p>Assumptions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Salary: 55,000</li>
<li>Growth term: 30 years</li>
<li>Self-directed fund has MER fees of 0.23%</li>
<li>Company fund has MER fees of 1% or 3%</li>
</ul>
<p>MER fees are Management Expense Ratio fees which are charged on the overall value of your fund annually.</p>
<p>Scenarios:</p>
<ul>
<li>100% matching up to 5% of salary where company plan and investment make 9%</li>
<li>50% matching up to 3% of salary where company plan and investment make 9%</li>
<li>25% matching up to 5% of salary where company plan and investment make 9%</li>
<li>100% matching up to 5% of salary where company plan makes 3% less than investment</li>
<li>25% matching up to 5% of salary where company plan makes 1% less than investment</li>
</ul>
<p>Here is what I found where the best option is in green, mid-option in orange and worst option in red:</p>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-279" src="https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Screen-Shot-2019-04-01-at-9.30.18-PM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2019-04-01 at 9.30.18 PM.png" width="617" height="249" srcset="https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Screen-Shot-2019-04-01-at-9.30.18-PM.png 617w, https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Screen-Shot-2019-04-01-at-9.30.18-PM-300x121.png 300w" sizes="(max-width: 617px) 100vw, 617px" /></p>
<p>So generally speaking if the company matches higher percentages and makes the same growth you could get elsewhere then 1% or even 3% MERs still make more than you would elsewhere.</p>
<p>When your company makes smaller contributions or you could make 1-3% more in investment growth elsewhere then it makes sense to invest elsewhere.</p>
<p>So before you go upping your contributions to maximise your employer matching, ask you HR rep for details of the fund they are investing in and use this as a general guide to figure out if you&#8217;d be better off foregoing the free money and investing your portion elsewhere.</p>
<p>Questions to ask your rep would be:</p>
<ul>
<li>What is the fund invested in?</li>
<li>What are the MER fees?</li>
<li>What growth has it seen as a percentage historically?</li>
<li>Is there a vesting period? &#8211; this is a minimum period of time that you need to leave the funds in your company&#8217;s group scheme before you move them elsewhere/sell them even if you leave the company</li>
<li>Are there deferred sales charges (DSC)? &#8211; this is an early discharge fee, it can be a sliding scale which reduces by percentage per year the closer you get to the end of the term (think this is Canadian only)</li>
</ul>
<p>If you do set up your own self directed account, as these are retirement/pension funds with deductions at source you&#8217;ll need to make sure you set up the correct investment fund to ensure your company can contribute pre-tax.</p>
<p>Another option you could consider is to make use of the matching and then transfer those funds into your self-directed account once you have access to the matched amount (usually subject to a vesting period).</p>
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