I’ve previously written about how mathematically it doesn’t make sense to pay down your mortgage quickly, but in this post, I will play devil’s advocate and show why we’ve decided to pay off our mortgage before investing.
Time to financial independence
At a high level, it’s because when I crunched the numbers on my quickest path to financial independence, the scenario where I paid off my mortgage before investing was about the same time as the scenario where I paid the mortgage down slowly and invested heavily instead.
The reason the timeline is so comparable is because once you’ve paid off your mortgage you need significantly less passive income from your investments to cover your remaining living expenses.
See the detailed analysis section at the end of this post for a demonstration of this analysis.
Reduced financial risk
While my first objective of the analysis was to find the quickest path to financial independence, the other element is that I’d like reduced financial risk to myself and my family should I lose my job or get sick, especially since we made the decision to go down to one part-time income. This may seem obvious to state but, paying off our mortgage would reduce our minimum expenses by almost 10,000€/year. As our other expenses are already quite low, once the mortgage is paid, we will almost be able to live off one minimum wage job. This reassurance in itself gives us a certain element of financial freedom even before we reach full financial independence.
Guaranteed rate of return
The other thing to consider is rate of return.
A mortgage interest rate will be at least 2-3% for most mortgages in Ireland. Even the newest mortgage provider Avant will only provide 1.95% to very select customers.
Paying down your mortgage is a guaranteed savings of that 2-3%/year.
If that money was in the stock market, you could make 20% in a given year or you could lose 20% in a given year. The average rate of return since inception of the stock market has been 10%. This is PRE tax. If you’re invested in ETFs in Ireland, take off 41% in exit taxes. This leaves 5.9% or 4% after inflation (it’s not that simple as you have compounding and reinvestment of dividends but I’m trying to keep it high level).
In my experience though I have not been so lucky.
I’ve had retirement account investments in Canada since 2013 or so, even in a tax-deferred account (like a pension) I’ve only averaged 3.7%/year or 1.7% if you take out inflation. Though I should say that performance was mostly because I was unaware of the true impact of fees and my provider for most of that time was taking 2.75% of my total investment as their annual fee! Ouch.
In Ireland, I’ve only been investing since May 2019 but so far my initial lump sum is standing at MINUS 4.96%/year after inflation AND I’m still paying taxes on dividends even though I’m at an overall loss since ETFs can’t carry losses forward.
If I’d lumped that money against my mortgage I would have reduced my mortgage payments by almost 100€/month or 1,200/year of post tax money.
Now if I’d started investing at another time where the market performed very well, this could be a very different story but for now this has been my experience and I’m happier focusing our efforts on the mortgage.
Less reliance on market performance in early retirement
The other consideration is for when we reach early retirement. If we still had a mortgage we’d need to withdraw larger amounts from our portfolio to get by. If we no longer have a mortgage, we need to withdraw less from our portfolio and therefore rely less on market performance to fund our lifestyle. This is reassuring as we don’t have to rely on something that’s out of our control to fund a large portion of our living expenses.
Psychological impact of having no mortgage
I recently watched a really interesting interview with Mr. Money Moustache (MMM) and Jesse, the founder of the budgeting software You Need a Budget (YNAB). It’s quite lengthy but has some really great and insightful nuggets in there.
One of which was the topic of paying off your mortgage or not.
MMM said that while mathematically it makes sense to take advantage of lower mortgage interest rates and invest your money in a higher-performing stock market, for him, financial freedom is about building a happy life, not about having the most money. And for him, not having a mortgage makes him feel good and so he doesn’t have a mortgage.
Jesse also made the point that while a lot of people will say “yes it makes more sense to invest than pay down your mortgage”, most people won’t actually invest and so they are neither paying down their mortgage or investing.
The other thing I’d consider here is the psychological willpower it takes to leave money invested in a market that is tanking. While mathematically it makes sense in the long term to invest alongside a low interest mortgage, you need to be really honest with yourself and know that if you saw your portfolio literally halve overnight, would you have the willpower to leave the money invested and allow for it to recover?
You may say so now but until you actually have it happen to you, you will not know how you will react. If you don’t rely on the power of time to recover, and you withdraw your money at a loss then you definitely make a loss AND still have a mortgage to pay off so you are worse off than if you’d put that money against your mortgage from day 1.
Downsides
The only downsides I can think of to this approach are:
We are tying up a lot of our portfolio in an illiquid asset, so if we did fall on hard times, although our expenses would be reduced, we’d also have less access to our money compared to if we had it invested in the stock market. We are reducing this risk by keeping a years worth of living expenses in cash and leaving our existing stocks and ETFs invested as an additional backup.
If the market did outperform our mortgage rate after taxes, we’d potentially have a lower net worth than if we had invested and paid our mortgage off slowly but our main goal is not to have the highest net worth. We are more focused on reducing financial risk and increasing lifestyle options.
As long as we have enough to get by, with a few comforts and even a few luxuries, we are happy. We are also on track to have our mortgage cleared in the next 2-3 years and so that timeframe shouldn’t make a huge impact if we miss out on the market performance during that time.
Detailed analysis
For those of you interested in the analysis comparing time to financial independence by paying off your mortgage first or not. Here it is.
Assumptions:
- 40-year-old married couple with 2 school-aged kids
- Have a mortgage with a few years paid down, 200k remaining
- No other debts and no existing investments
- Earning combined income of 100k (73k after-tax)
- Average of 40k annual expenses (see how our family spent an average of 40k in 2019 and 2020 in Cork)
- Average after tax savings/year = 33k
- Mortgage repayments 1,000/month or 12,000/year
- Mortgage interest rate 2.95% variable (allowing lump sum payments without penalty)
- ETF performance 7.91% after fees and inflation (10% average historical stock market performance, 0.19% fees, 1.9% historical 30-year inflation) – see our ETF portfolio here
- Asset allocation 100% equities/stocks 0% bonds or cash (higher risk and higher volatility but potentially higher rewards)
- Scenario 1: Pay off mortgage as quickly as possible, then invest in ETFs
- Scenario 2: Pay mortgage off slowly and invest in ETFs from day 1
Scenario 1:Pay off mortgage as quickly as possible, then invest in ETFs
Pay existing 12k/year in minimum payments + additional lump sums of 33k/year = 45k/year off 200k mortgage.
Mortgage repayment schedule
Year | Remaining | Min annual payment | Additional payments | Interest | New amount |
1 | €200,000 | 12,000 | € 33,000 | €5,900 | 160,900 |
2 | €160,900 | 12,000 | € 33,000 | €4,747 | 120,646 |
3 | €120,647 | 12,000 | € 33,000 | €3,559 | 79,205 |
4 | €79,206 | 12,000 | € 33,000 | €2,337 | 36,542 |
5 | €36,542 | 12,000 | € 25,620 | €1,078 | – |
ETF investment schedule
Mortgage is paid off in year 5, freeing up 12k in expenses which can be lumped in with the 33k post tax savings for an annual investment of 45k.
Year | Fund | Annual Savings | Gain | Exit tax | Total |
1 | € – | € – | |||
2 | € – | € – | € – | ||
3 | € – | € – | € – | ||
4 | € – | € – | € – | € – | |
5 | € – | € 7,380 | € 584 | € 7,964 | |
6 | € 7,964 | € 45,000 | € 4,189 | € 57,153 | |
7 | € 57,153 | € 45,000 | € 8,080 | € 110,233 | |
8 | € 110,233 | € 45,000 | € 12,279 | € – | € 167,512 |
9 | € 167,512 | € 45,000 | € 16,810 | € – | € 229,322 |
10 | € 229,322 | € 45,000 | € 21,699 | € – | € 296,021 |
11 | € 296,021 | € 45,000 | € 26,975 | € – | € 367,996 |
12 | € 367,996 | € 45,000 | € 32,668 | € 239 | € 445,424 |
13 | € 445,424 | € 45,000 | € 38,793 | € 1,718 | € 527,499 |
14 | € 527,499 | € 45,000 | € 45,285 | € 3,313 | € 614,471 |
15 | € 614,471 | € 45,000 | € 52,164 | € 5,034 | € 706,601 |
Time to FI
Scenario 1 for this couple enables them to reach FI in 15 years (by age 55) starting from 0 investments at age 40. The 706k ETF portfolio allows them to safely withdraw almost 28k/year which is all they need to live as they no longer have the 12k in expenses to pay for their mortgage (40k minus 12k = 28k).
Scenario 2: Pay mortgage off slowly and invest in ETFs from day 1
Mortgage repayment schedule
Year | Remaining | Min annual payment | Additional payment | Interest | New amount |
1 | €200,000 | 12,000 | €5,900 | 193,900 | |
2 | €193,900 | 12,000 | €5,720 | 187,620 | |
3 | €187,620 | 12,000 | €5,535 | 181,155 | |
4 | €181,155 | 12,000 | €5,344 | 174,499 | |
5 | €174,499 | 12,000 | €5,148 | 167,647 | |
6 | €167,647 | 12,000 | €4,946 | 160,592 | |
7 | €160,592 | 12,000 | €4,737 | 153,330 | |
8 | €153,330 | 12,000 | €4,523 | 145,853 | |
9 | €145,853 | 12,000 | €4,303 | 138,156 | |
10 | €138,156 | 12,000 | €4,076 | 130,231 | |
11 | €130,231 | 12,000 | €3,842 | 122,073 | |
12 | €122,073 | 12,000 | €3,601 | 113,674 | |
13 | €113,674 | 12,000 | €3,353 | 105,028 | |
14 | €105,028 | 12,000 | €3,098 | 96,126 | |
15 | €96,126 | 12,000 | €2,836 | 86,962 | |
16 | €86,962 | 12,000 | €2,565 | 77,527 | |
17 | €77,527 | 12,000 | €2,287 | 67,814 | |
18 | €67,814 | 12,000 | €2,001 | 57,814 | |
19 | €57,814 | 12,000 | €1,706 | 47,520 | |
20 | €47,520 | 12,000 | €1,402 | 36,922 | |
21 | €36,922 | 12,000 | €1,089 | 26,011 | |
22 | €26,011 | 12,000 | €767 | 14,778 | |
23 | €14,778 | 12,000 | €436 | 3,214 | |
24 | €3,214 | 3,309 | €95 | – |
ETF investment schedule
Year | Fund | Annual Savings | Gain | Exit tax | Total |
1 | € 33,000 | € 2,610 | € 35,610 | ||
2 | € 35,610 | € 33,000 | € 5,427 | € 74,037 | |
3 | € 74,037 | € 33,000 | € 8,467 | € 115,504 | |
4 | € 115,504 | € 33,000 | € 11,747 | € 160,251 | |
5 | € 160,251 | € 33,000 | € 15,286 | € 208,537 | |
6 | € 208,537 | € 33,000 | € 19,106 | € 260,642 | |
7 | € 260,642 | € 33,000 | € 23,227 | € 316,870 | |
8 | € 316,870 | € 33,000 | € 27,675 | € 1,070 | € 376,474 |
9 | € 376,474 | € 33,000 | € 32,389 | € 2,225 | € 439,638 |
10 | € 439,638 | € 33,000 | € 37,386 | € 3,471 | € 506,553 |
11 | € 506,553 | € 33,000 | € 42,679 | € 4,816 | € 577,415 |
12 | € 577,415 | € 33,000 | € 48,284 | € 6,267 | € 652,432 |
13 | € 652,432 | € 33,000 | € 54,218 | € 7,833 | € 731,816 |
14 | € 731,816 | € 33,000 | € 60,497 | € 9,523 | € 815,790 |
15 | € 815,790 | € 33,000 | € 67,139 | € 11,347 | € 904,582 |
16 | € 904,582 | € 33,000 | € 74,163 | € 13,280 | € 998,466 |
Time to FI
Scenario 2 for this couple enables them to reach FI in just over 16 years (by age 56) starting from 0 investments at age 40. The 1 million ETF portfolio allows them to safely withdraw 40k/year which is what they need to live as they still have 12k/year in mortgage repayments for an additional 8 years.
Once their mortgage is paid off by age 64, they will still have a larger portfolio and could continue to withdraw 40k/year should they choose but takes them a little over a year more than scenario 1.
Want more of this?
I recently did a presentation on something similar where I showed how a 40-year-old couple with 2 kids starting with no investments, earning a combined income of 100k/year, with a savings rate of 50%, could reach financial independence in 13 years regardless of the approach they took.
The scenarios I looked at were:
- paying off the mortgage and then investing in ETFs
- paying the mortgage slowly, maxing their pension and investing the rest in ETFs, and
- paying off the mortgage, then maxing their pension and investing any remainders in ETFs
If you’re interested in how these options weighed up against each other along with the impacts on each portfolio after 30 years of withdrawals, you can purchase tickets to the pre-recorded event for 20€ here. This gets you access to 4 hours of presentations from other Irish, European and US presenter’s perspectives.
Hi Meagan!
Thank you very much for your article and for your blog. Really interesting.
Just in case if I didn’t find – was there any story here how did you actually took a mortgage?
It seems very hard especially in 2020… with these insane prices (and current salaries and taxes). Especially in Dublin. (do you live in Dublin by the way, or another Irish city? you could skip and don’t answer that if too personal). The trickiest part is this 3.5x(annual salary) rule IMHO…
What do you think about category of people who do not take mortgage at all (even if they can afford it), rent for entire life and invest anywhere else instead? Could it be a smarter financial choice?
Hi Pavel, Thanks for reaching out. In terms of getting a mortgage, we are indeed in a cheaper city and as we were second-time buyers we required a 20% downpayment which limited what/when we could buy. I also was newly self-employed at the time and didn’t have the necessary paperwork required by most banks. We managed to find a broker who knew which banks were more likely to consider our situation. So long story short, try to get a broker who specialises in tricky situations. In terms of renting, yes it can be a smarter choice. Especially if you are not planning on living long term in Dublin. Homeownership is expensive and you will likely spend a lot more on a house in the long term than you would on rent in terms of maintenance, renovations, upgrades, decorating etc, all things you don’t need to worry about with rent. Also if you don’t yet have a family and are up for living with other people, renting can again be cheaper in that respect. You have to look at the big picture in your own circumstance to figure out what’s right for you. Are you tied to Dublin or could you move to a cheaper location if homeownership Is something you long for? As long as you are investing in something that’s keeping up with inflation, then you will reach your FI goal eventually.
Oh, sorry, I think I have found an answer to one of my questions here (year 12). 🙂
https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/financial-independence-with-a-partner-who-spends-more-than-you/#First_home_%E2%80%93_Year_6
Hi,
Just started reading your blog and subscribed to your youtube channel.
I think you are doing a great job on it.
However, just one point i think which might improve it.
Most other blogs get people really interested when they use real numbers.
When they say their annual expenses are x, they will have a link to a breakdown of their actual annual expenses listed out, along with what city they live in etc.
Just a minor point, but these things get far more engaging when real numbers and experiences are posted. And then that link, when followed by the curious person who wants to know how you get to €40k annual expenses, would generate even more traffic to your blog/youtube video.
But keep up the good work. I am really impressed and will definitely follow.
J
Hi Jimmy, Thanks for the feedback, fair point. I do actually have a post on what we spend in a year here (but take your point that I should cross-reference), https://mrsmoneyhacker.com/what-we-spent-in-the-last-12-months/ – I am due an update for 2020. It’s in the works.
Interesting, I’d love to see a buying vs renting + heavily investing for an Irish scenario.
Hi Paul, I’ve looked at this myself recently so should be able to put this together in an article 🙂 I’ll add it to the to do list